Reviews 2026
INTERVIEW OF ARTIST JEAN-PIERRE SERGENT BY ART HISTORIAN ELENA SHLIAKHTINA | JULY 24 2026 | LINKEDIN | lenadoroch@gmail.com
Elena Shliakhtina is an art historian and cultural heritage professional with solid experience in art custody, collections and exhibitions management.
Much of her professional experience was developed at the St. Petersburg Academy of Arts, where she supported more than 20 exhibitions, managed restoration and collections records, and worked with artworks entrusted by leading museums, including the State Hermitage. She has also collaborated with artists on exhibition texts, catalogue materials, and other art-related publications.
QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
— 1. BIOGRAPHY
ON YOUR WEBSITE, YOUR BIOGRAPHY SEEMS TO DISTINGUISH QUITE CLEARLY BETWEEN THE EARLY PERIOD IN FRANCE, THEN MONTREAL, AND THEN NEW YORK.
But after that, the structure appears to change: the later years are described less through places or chronological periods and more through series of works. How do you understand this shift?
Yes, you are absolutely right, as every artist has to find his own way, his own technique, his own themas that he will feel comfortable to develop as an artistic process and his own materials… As for me, after having painted abstract paintings with oil and later on with acrylic, for more than ten years, in France (1984) I felt more confortable in reintegrating some images; little by little, into some large color fields of plan surfaces in thus including some contemporary press images clips and mixing them with some old traditional patterns, in Montreal (1991-1993) and later on in New York (1993-2003)…
Actually, in Besançon, France, in 2026, I am working for some years with silk-screened images, even if it's a long and fastidious process. Specially that I am working all by myself at the studio, it stays the technical way which is giving me the more freedom, and doesn't bore me as I can choose and print whatever image I would Like to print and in whatever color I like to. in being however, of course, limited by the size of the silkscreen frames fo the size of the printed image.
— 1 - 2. DO MONTREAL AND NEW YORK REPRESENT, FOR YOU, A PERIOD OF SEARCHING THAT EVENTUALLY LED TO THE FORMATION OF YOUR ARTISTIC LANGUAGE?
And do the later series develop within that already established language?
Absolutely, since I moved my studio back to France in 2004, after having setting up and organised all my studio materials in my former Long Island City, where I had even bought, to my former boss, Georges Drexel, in LIC, the old big printing press table which belonged before to Any Warhol. I bought him also a drying rack to dry my papers and bought also a plotter, in order to cut out the red inactinic films with my images that I draw out from my computer. Having moved my studio in North America, allowed me to discover a total new way of differently living, working and thinking about Art and its deep meaning.
As I used to live before, in a farm where I had raised some horse and living all by myself, as an hermit, in the Jura Mountains (1981-1991); so It was for me a complete turnaround, to live in some big major metropolitan areas as Montreal firstly (1991-1993), and then New York (1993-2003), later on.
It was thus there, somehow were I had fully embraced what we can name some true consumer society, with all its different individuals and selfishness excesses (all the "me, myself and I") caracteres, as in Europe people were, at the time, much more generous, But things have changed a lot today, and in Europe, people have also become quite individualistic. I have to witness as well every social irrationalities, disruptions and disfonctions, plus also meeting so many artists friends, that had moved also there to get famous and get an artistic career somehow…
— 2 - 1. BEGINNINGS: SURFACE, SUPPORT, AND THE FIRST VISUAL LANGUAGE
In your early works from the 1980s in France, you often used modest, everyday materials: newspaper, cardboard, acrylic paint, and wood panels.
In these works, the newspaper is not only a support. It also creates a visual structure, rhythm, or grid underneath the painted surface.
Did you already think of the newspaper as an image in itself, a texture, or a witness to the world around you?
Could this use of newspaper already create a link between contemporary images and more archaic or symbolic forms?
Yes, in fact, in France I started using newspaper sheets from the famous French News paper 'Libération', and I used to glue them onto plywood panels that I built myself in order to have an exact right size for my paintings. As an artist, I always wanted to get out, to exit of most of the ideas that would be imposed on Art : I wanted to stop painting on canvas, to stop using expensive oil paints, to escape any artistic guidelines, any sense of what should be done or not. And I am still doing that to this day.
As you said contemporary daily newspaper images are representing the visuals informations of what is happening right now, in front of our eyes into societies.
For example, today, in July 2026, a lot of forests are burning all over France, so if I was still working with press clips, I would have certainly used some of those images today, in order to stay as up-to-date as possible with local and global terrible and troubling news!
One can't anymore today, if you have your own consciousness awake of your direct surrounding and in witnessing all what happen in the World, just make Art, and just painting some "flowers" or "landscapes"… As today, so many things are happening around us: environmental disasters, the breakdown of social links between people, animal species disappearing, cultural collapses, despairing of each and every First People, wars raging across the globe, etc...
So, you have to take responsibility of what you would like to present to the public: either to pander to the audience or to take a stance of resistance and criticism.
As Picasso did when he painted his Guernica, one of its main art work, as well also with his Demoiselles d'Avignon, which was at that time, a slap right in the audience's face! But this one was an aesthetic shock, whereas Guernica was a true political cry!
Or unless, of course, if ever one artist can still develop its own superior meditative power and technical spiritual dimension, that could transcends time and all aesthetical standards, like painters as Johannes Veermer (1632 - 1675) or Caspar David Friedrich (1774 - 1840), the famous German romantic landscapes painter etc…
— 2 - 2. LOOKING BACK AT THAT EARLY PERIOD, DO YOU SEE IT AS THE BEGINNING OF YOUR LATER INTEREST IN LAYERING, COVERING, HIDING, AND REVEALING IMAGES, OR WHAT WE MIGHT CALL VEILING AND UNVEILING?
Yes, I really like and enjoy mixing informations together, and the more different and far away informations are, the more it could create confusion into the viewer mind. And I really enjoy also loosing myself into the working process, as I absolutely hate knowing in advance what and how the painting will finally look like! I said at one point : "Beauty emerges from confusion!" It's particularly true with the works on Plexiglas, as it is painted as a reverse glas painting technic and I absolutely can't never know before applying the latest coat of monochrome paint with my brush, what the final painting will be. Specially that the front surface of the Plexiglas panels are, during the working process, protected by a greenish plastic film, so it's impossible to guess what the painting will look when finished…
Integrating different images and informations, as it's happening all the time in real life, as for example, if you just go out for a walk for food shopping or even talking some walks into nature, you will have, in front of you, billions of informations. I always remember my painting art teacher Mr Jean Ricardon, who always told me: "To paint is to choose what do you like to paint, it's a choice!" He was totally right, but somehow, having lived in New York for so many years, I discovered that, one can live also simultaneously into several layers of realities and levels of understanding other cultures and representations of the World, all at the same time, simultaneously.
As you can, in NY, eat an hotdog just in front of the MET, and five minutes later, to be in a state of ecstasy right in front of the magnificent View of Toledo (1595-1600) from El Greco, then after that, being totally stunned and in deep primal trance in front of some huge Asmat Totem Poles from New Guinea. I learned that in New York, to be more open minded, very curious and very attentive to the full diversity of human art forms and cultures and and enjoy it to the fullest!
— 3 - 1. MONTREAL AND NEW YORK: COLLECTING IMAGES AND BEARING WITNESS
You have written about your need to collect and salvage images from newspapers, especially during your Montreal and New York years. What kind of images were you looking for at that time? You describe the world of the early 1990s as noisy, violent, consumerist, and full of desire and fear. Did working with press images become a way for you to bear witness to that world?
I always been attracted by erotical and sensual images of women bodies, or sexual interactions representations, as well as some violents images! In order to illustrate, for the violent images of disasters, and bear witness to the immense stupidity and the unclassifiable, appalling capitalist attitude that emanates from all those press images and from secularisation (the destruction of everything which was at some point sacred, not too long ago). Talking about that subject matter, I would recommend to watch this movie from Canadian movie director Denys Arcand, Les invasions barbares (2003):
This is what I said bout it in my Notes Besançon - 2023
One of the scenes in the film that moved me the most is when the filmmaker shoot, in a large, dark warehouse, in a very gentle, slow, and nostalgic manner, all the statues of the Christs and the Virgins Mary, objects of worship: ciboria, tabernacles, and the like; which have been salvaged, gathered up like scrap, vulgar rubbish piled up and heaped there hastily, without care, in this impersonal industrial warehouse. Fallen angels of two-thousand-year-old beliefs. Objects coming originally from all the Catholic churches that were forced to close during the last recent years in Quebec, due to a lack of practicing Christians in a country that was so Christian and so bigoted right up until the 1960s and 1970s. Objects once so revered, adored, and imbued with so many hopes and votive prayers— that today cannot even find buyers in auction houses. This goes to show that Art value is always time relative, consubstantial with, and parallel to a particular era believes and society dictate.
So of course, necessarily, in using contemporary press clips now, even if nowadays there are images chosen from the internet, there are also most of the time pornographic ones, is allowing me to take stock of, to assess the state of our natural environment and our cultural environment as well... As for the Art, I just found out today, that the last two art galleries, in my beautiful City of Besançon, are closing this summer…
Not even mentioning, of course, the countless wildfires all over France and elsewhere, the Rivers that have run dry, or all the farmers driven to despair by these terrible climate changes and its resulting floods and droughts... WHAT A BIG MESS!
— 3 - 2. IN THE HIDDEN SILKSCREENS AND RELATED WORKS, IMAGES OFTEN SEEM TO APPEAR AND DISAPPEAR INSIDE PATTERNS, LAYERS, AND PRINTED STRUCTURES.
Was this "hidden image" already important for you as an artistic method? Many works from this period contain echoes of archaic or prehistoric forms: signs, triangles, animal-like forms, and body-like shapes. Were you consciously interested in prehistoric art, petroglyphs, cave art, or archaic symbols at that time?
Yes absolutely, I really like mixing things up with all different kind of images, as you said, geometrical designs, coming from traditional genetical patterns, from some old almost unknown tribes, as the Astmat, or of some traditional archeological Grecs potteries or Roman mosaics from Pompeii, or even Middle Ages manuscripts illustrations mixed altogether with women bodies in orgasms, sex and erotic texts, it's thus creates a syncretism, a new fusional world with a strong new aesthetical power!
As for the prehistoric art, I went to visit the Pech Merle Cave in France (-17 000 BC) with my sister, long time ago, and also the most famous replica of Lascaux #I, in the Périgord area, South West of France.
Being right in front and facing physically of all those beautiful drawing of horses, symbols, and specially the ceiling of clay, that is still fresh and alive, in which, so many shamans, artists, women and kids have had added and drawn their fingerprints, in thus creating a special collective art works unforgettable and unparalleled with a deep and strong collective energy. The drawing have been added, superposed for almost a total of ten thousand years, within different time periods… Had given me the feeling of being part of an artistic community, belonging and placing myself within the long perspective of time, over the deep Time, into a profound timelessness or even Eternity. And I almost wanted to add to those drawings my own finger prints, to be part of it, and to belong to some deep and timeless human communities…
It was such an aesthetic epiphany, that I began then afterward, to superimpose images, layering images, into my silkscreen prints, one on top of another, without worrying about what was the connection that united or opposed them, and thanks to this prehistoric aesthetic model of teamwork creativity, I was able to enter into my contemporary creative process.
I have also been influenced deeply by many petroglyphs from all cultural backgrounds, but, at the point of time, this ceiling at Pech Merle grotto remains my greatest surprise, as Georges Bataille stated in his really interesting book about Lascaux:
"The interweaving suggests that the existing decorations were insignificant at the time a new image was drawn." in Lascaux or the Birth of Art, (1955)
In my art I add also often graffitis, as they don't belong to any culture, an ancient roman graffiti, look about the same as a contemporary Japanese one. Drawn on contemporary walls, these are pussies, vulvas, cocks, and ejaculations of sperm—or even piss—all of which spring, in an anarchic way, from the true and sole unquenchable desire to copulate and climax. In this sense, graffiti belongs to no particular culture or aesthetic. It exists by and for itself, even though there are, for the most part, drawn in enclosed spaces—in restrooms—where, after all, we piss, shit, and sometimes fuck, just like everyone else. But these are true cries of desire; and they thus break free from all social and moral and cultural constraints and reveal the urgent, imperious presence of the body and its unquenchable wishes for orgasms and climaxing!
— 4 - 1. PLEXIGLAS, SILKSCREEN, AND THE PALIMPSEST
Your later works on Plexiglas create a very different physical presence. What did Plexiglas give you that paper or canvas could not?
Yes, firstly with the Plexiglas squares panels modules at always the same dimension of 105 cm by 105 cm, as for, I can mount them onto big walls, as tiles, and create thus, huge monumental wall installations. The final overall dimensions of the exhibited work will therefore depend on the space available at the exhibit location places: Galleries, Cultural Center or Museums. For example, my last exhibition "The Four Pillars of the Sky", was exhibited from September 2019 to September 2023, in the two stairwells of the Besançon Fine-Arts & Archaeology Museum (the oldest Museum in France). This was a fresco-installation of seventy-two paintings covering a total surface area of eighty square meters and to date, it was my largest and most monumental mural installation.
- Firstly, assembling paintings on a wall is like playing a childish construction game of displaying, on and off different units, as I keep trying, removing and adding pieces until I get a final result that I'm happy with! So, every new installation creates a new display, a new emotion, a new aesthetic choice and choc! it's the "FRESCO-PLAY" and an artistic statement, a composition for which I can choose the paintings from my entire collection of works on Plexiglas created over so many years...
- Secondly, the Plexiglas is giving to those paintings a special light, an aura, a presence, as in the reverse glass painting of some old Russians icons—because the light is reflected there, along with the shadow cast by any viewer passing by. And it also gives the colors a much stronger and more intense glow, fresh, pure and untouched, or touched by pure light and untouched, as if the very substance of the paint were alive, vivid, resonant, and vibrating almost as if they were lit from within. In short, it’s like a magical spiritual presence! The painting surface skin's that breathes, screams, and revels in a fusion of colors, shapes, and ecstatic orgasms!
- Thirdly, by it's special really large scale dimensions, as twenty square meter for example, the viewer is thus inside the painting physically all together, in walking in front and as in looking at it and exploring this large, colourful paintings, he is necessary part and merge into the painting, into my universe, and immersed, merged fully and completely, inevitably into it. He enter—not only with his gaze, his eyes, but also with his entire body—and thus can merge, physically, intellectually, and sensually also—whether he wants to or not—into a total fusion a merging with my work.
This fusion, however, requires a letting go attitude, as into every true and real spiritual revelation and it is then allowing things to unfold, allowing oneself to enjoy the experience, in placing trust into the artist who, de facto, will then lead you, as into a path, into other different and magnificent colourful universes.
Unfortunately, here, in France at least, viewers remain truly rationalist and they always want to understand, what? They are always on their guard; they are and remain very skeptical and highly critical of my work—which is a real shame and difficult for me to understand and accept.
You can’t never look at Art, have a revelation, or merge with a work of art while calmly and innocently holding onto your hand, your little silver spoon!
— 4 - 2. A TECHNICAL QUESTION: HOW DOES ACRYLIC SILKSCREEN BEHAVE ON PLEXIGLAS OVER TIME?
Are there particular challenges in preserving, storing, or exhibiting these works? Do the colours change with time?
Yes that is a true legitimate and relevant question, that I have been also asked to myself over the years. And, in fact, the Plexiglas sheets are made of acrylic based material and I am printing and painting on it, with acrylic paint: so it's exactly and absolutely the same the same chemical molecule! A few years ago, I asked that exact same question to a chemist who visited my studio and who had been working into a Plexiglas factory in the Lyon area and, as we all know that the first Plexiglas from the 1960, were somehow yellowing after some time… He then told me that the current acrylic sheets of Plexiglas nowadays are totally physically stable because, during its manufacture, a large amount of antioxidant is added to it, which stabilises it over time! It should therefore remain perfectly stable both physically and visually and won't turn yellow...
And of course, the panels are still nevertheless fragile to handle, and when I install them with my assistant Jeff or with museum technicians, we always wear gloves and take great care not to damage the corners and the edges of the paintings. But so far, everything has gone smoothly. You still have to avoid exposing those Plexiglas paintings to direct sunlight, because the panels can extend by a few millimeters under intense heat. But who would ever display a work of art in direct sunlight! You can’t even imagine doing that to Da Vinci’s Mona Lisa!
But I would like to quote, at this point and time, something about the art material artists are using for their Art, by the famous sculptor Richard Serra, in an interview published after his death in 2024 on Twitter:
RICHARD SERRA: "I think the idea that people find raw materials ugly—or that another material isn’t ugly—is really tied to the media’s indoctrination by corporations and bourgeois “good taste”! You know, first it was plastic, then stainless steel, and now bronze and Corten steel—which are being taken for a ride, so to speak. Probably in 25 years, once Corten steel has disappeared and we’re no longer building with it, we’ll feel like we’re dealing with wrought iron. […] I think this taste isn’t really tied to knowledge of the material but rather to indoctrination: STEEL IS BAD! BRONZE IS GOOD! MARBLE IS GOOD! WOOD IS BAD! I mean, all this stuff cracks me up!"
It's always about the same old question, is the material used in the working process the true value? (like marble for Michel Angelo?) or the creative part, the genius of the artist, which are more valuable?
Have the wood poplar panels on which Mona Lisa is painted have any value? Or all the layers of oil painting? The brushes? Or the greatness of Vinci's creative mind?
All that appear to me much more as fetichism, as someone will buy in auction any painting for billion of dollars or, to put it more flippantly: the white gloves worn by Michael Jackson or some of Madonna's panties.
I think it will be appropriate here to mention as a striking example of this problem, the 'famous' sculpture For the Love of God by English artist Damien Hirst produced in 2007. It consists of a platinum cast of an 18th-century anonymous human skull encrusted with 8,601 flawless diamonds, which is, for me truly the utmost paragon of human artistic hedonist stupidity, not regarding business smartness, of course! As it's just, for me, some business oriented, a prime example of human artistic hubris. Of course, the artist will never not loose any money on in this marketing operation. Even if he had to invested a lot in expensive raw materials to produce its piece. This art work is just a joke, college prank, as this skull, is almost the exact replica from an old Aztec mask, encrusted with turquoise at the time, form the British Museum. Aztec Art, which I respect highly, as those 'Mexican' masks were fixed on the face of the dead Kings or Queens in order that their images could survive after death, as a mirror effect, following them into all the different underworld levels, that the dead has to encounter during there travelling into the postmortem underworlds, Aztecs or Mayans.
Here nothing about Dead, it's just about money, death, snippets of supermarket spirituality—so uninteresting and so incredibly tacky and ultra-kitschy! Its skull is built with an intrinsic and considerable value due to the precious raw materials from which it is made: diamonds and platinum... just another sign coming from of our ultra consumer society! No more comments!
As for me, the materials are not so important, even if I had to change it, after moving to Canada in 1991, were I was supposed to work with the important Moose Gallery in Toronto, were Jerry, the director at the time, had told me not to work anymore on Masonite and use news papers as there were too acid!
That's today the true reason why, I had chosen to paint, from that time, on Plexiglas panels, which is a neutral and non acid material…
But, anyhow, here are a short list of the kind of Art created and different supports and so different from our canvas or wood panels, I really appreciate looking at. As for, that the reader understand what kind of works of art and from which culture, are truly captivating me on a deep and profound level:
I have always been fascinated by paintings created on media other than canvas or wooden panels. For example, the paintings in prehistoric caves, the paintings on Greek vases, Maya, and Moche, the paintings on Egyptian tombs and wood sarcophagi, Islamic ceramics, prehistoric Chinese pottery, Aztec and Maya codices, medieval manuscripts, Tibetan mandalas, graffiti violently carved into the walls of modern cities, Indian miniatures gouaches paintings, the Mola blouses of the Kuna women of Panama, the spirit-painted white bodies of the Selk’man Indians of Tierra del Fuego, the finger-painted designs on the ceiling of the Pech-Merle cave, the shamanic drums of Siberia or the Americas, the loincloths painted on strips of bark by the Mbuti and Mangbetu Pygmies, Japanese shunga prints, the magical animals spirits designs painted on Sioux tipis, the dream maps on bark by Australian Aborigines, the sand paintings of the Navajo, the paintings on wooden shields by the Asmat, the ceremonial masks of Mexico and Guatemala, etc…
"My paintings are germinations, cosmogonies, energy systems, artistic exterminations…" in Notes New York - 1993-2003
ELENA SHLIAKHTINA’S SMALL NOTE ON JPS SILKSCREEN TECHNIQUE
'In Jean-Pierre Sergent’s work, silkscreen is not only a technical process or a method of reproducing images. It becomes a way of thinking and constructing the image itself.
For readers who are less familiar with the process, silkscreen is a printing technique based on transferring an image through a mesh screen. The image is prepared on the screen, while the areas that should not print are blocked with an impermeable material. The screen is then placed over the chosen surface, and paint is pushed through the open parts of the mesh, usually with a squeegee. In Jean-Pierre Sergent’s work, this technical process becomes especially important because it allows images to be repeated, layered, displaced, and partially hidden, creating the dense visual structure that he describes as accumulation and palimpsest.
The screen functions almost like a membrane: it allows the image to pass through, but also transforms it, filters it, fixes it, and distances it from its original source.
What is especially important is the tension between mechanical repetition and the artist’s physical gesture. Silkscreen is often associated with serial production, but in Jean-Pierre's work it becomes highly personal, and almost ritualistic. Each printed layer carries a different colour, rhythm, pressure, and decision. The repeated image is never simply repeated; it is displaced, covered, intensified, or partially lost inside the next layer.
This is why the technique is so closely connected to the idea of the palimpsest. Images do not disappear completely when they are covered. They remain present as traces, memories. In this sense, silkscreen allows to bring together contemporary images, archaic signs, erotic bodies, sacred symbols, and ornamental structures within one dense visual field, where each layer continues to vibrate beneath the surface.'
— 4 - 3. YOUR TECHNIQUE IS OFTEN BASED ON ACCUMULATION: IMAGES ARE REPEATED, LAYERED, COVERED, AND PARTIALLY REVEALED.
Do you see your works as palimpsests, where each layer keeps the memory of the previous one?
That’s exactly how Life itself works and develop, as palimpsests: generations follow one after another: Skulls, skeletons, and bones endlessly covering, above skulls, skeletons, and bones endlessly covering...
We’re born, we live, we reproduce sexually, and then we all die! It’s exactly the same throughout my creative process with the images I choose to print, overlaying one over the other one! Not one is more important than the other one! And the final result is like timeless rocks layering… some geological strata that have been cut through and exposed to time: one layer after the other, it's truly an accumulation process, adding images, in order to get to the last final touch, where nothing can be added neither retrieved. That's it, it's done and completed, It gushes forth, It's radiant, it enlightens, and it's ever-present, just as a medieval manuscript would!
And of course, all the images that have been printed, even if, at some point, in the final prints, we can't hardly really see them fully, they are still present as an aura, a spirit, a deep and joyful memory that nourish physically the art works exactly the same as in our real life. As our beloved departed and ancestors are still living within us. Creating thus that fertile ground of memories and history, from which we draw strength every day—in our work, in our daily lives, and, of course, in our dreams.
The overwhelming abundance and overload of erotic informations and emotions are meant to transport the viewer directly into a state of spiritual transcendence and images are, in fact, the very nourishing sustenance of Life!
As Carl Gustav Jung once said in his Commentary on the Mystery of the Golden Flower a really ancient Taoist text:
"Everything of which we are conscious is an image, and image is soul by itself."
— 4 - 4. WHEN THE VIEWER LOOKS AT THESE WORKS, IT IS OFTEN DIFFICULT TO FIND ONE “MAIN” IMAGE.
The eye moves through a labyrinth of colours, signs, patterns, and symbols. Is this visual complexity essential to your idea of the work, or is it also a kind of game between the artist and the spectator?
Yes, my work is definitely a treasure hunt for the viewer, and it demands and requires an effort on their part, because nothing in it really obvious or predictable—there’s a profusion of images drawn from multiple cultural references! In this way, I want to create an aesthetic chaos that is unsettling and overwhelming. It is really an energetic and aesthetic chaos! Because my work cannot be grasped—neither rationally, nor visually, nor culturally, nor even aesthetically—without letting go of one’s preconceptions and preconceived notions… And furthermore, it is very distinctive and unique in its direct, "in-your-face," and highly provocative approach; this requires effort and initiation, just like in any true and deep spiritual experience!
I once wrote in New York that beauty is born of confusion, and when we’re confused, moved, or deeply shocked by something, we then forget everything—and we are forgetting ourselves as well; we’re fragile and vulnerable. Perhaps it’s this state into which I’d like to immerse the viewer in my works.
Yes, a state of aesthetic confusion so that they can finally enter the work and the heart of its subject matter—Life itself. It’s not meant to be malicious, but it’s true that I like to unsettle people, and I think that’s one of the most important and primary roles of art and artists. But of course, there must be substance behind that shock, that provocation… Which is no longer the case for most artists, who use only the first part—the shock, the provocation—without adding any substance, any meaning behind it! Their work are as empty as the minds of most of our contemporaries—who would want to die in front of a Jeff Koons? Personally, I’d rather die in front of a Rembrandt or a Vermeer, just in case I could ever choose!
— 5 - 1. MAYAN DIARY AND THE SPIRITUAL-EROTIC IMAGE: IN MAYAN DIARY, YOU BRING TOGETHER MAYAN SOURCES, EROTICISM, SHAMANISM, COSMOLOGY, AND IDEAS OF DEATH AND AFTERLIFE.
What was your first encounter with Mayan culture, and why did it become so important for your work?
I get the chance to travel several times, with my dear girlfriend Olga, which is of Colombian origin and have the Indian look. We have been visiting several Mexican Pyramids locations as Uxmal, Monte Alban and Chichen Itza, as well as also the Museo Nacional de Antropología of Mexico. Needless to say that facing and discovering the strong cosmical, spiritual and physical energies of those sculptures and architectures and also the tellurique power and life-forces of the Toltecs, Mayans, Aztec, Mixtec Arts, and of course, not mentioning the vivid, stunning, vibrant colors of the tunics worn by modern-day Maya women and the magnificent ancient pottery, had shaken me to the core of my soul forever. It was like losing my virginity once again!
THOUGHT: WE MUST NOT LET BEAUTY BE THROWN AWAY IN THE TRASH BINS OF HISTORY!
To encounter so many forces—at once sexual, morbid, and libidinous: stone, granite, snakes, countless skulls, and of course Cōātlīcue,(the Aztec goddess who gave birth to the moon, stars, and Huītzilōpōchtli, the god of the sun and war.) the monolithic goddess, at once maternal and cosmic; very ugly, monumental and scary, yet she remains very sensual, just like any true Goddess worth her name!
To discover also some Aztec priests in ecstatic trance performing human sacrifices, then wrapping around themselves, the victims’ skin, to steal their energy and thus, impersonifying their identity, becoming true sacrificers, and even eating their hearts to draw out, down to the very marrow, the vital energies necessary for survival... It was Life and it was Death, and their intertwined and inextricable connections Cycles... Knowing that the priests could travel—thanks to their shamanic trances, sometimes induced by self-inflicted bleeding from their penises—to fall into trance and enter other levels of reality, was simply absolutely fascinating and Pre-Columbian Art had given me some strong and unforgettable art and life lessons, that I will never forget!
And it had absolutely nothing to do with what I have know before and which is so properly and innocently called "Art" in France and Europe! That was alive! Sexual! Dissonant! Disharmonious! Chaotic! The biggest, most vital mess I’d ever encountered, with Death, of course with skulls and skeletons all over! An aesthetic of the Real, the Living, bloody bodies sexualised, the one that pisses, fucks, gets hard, and shits! (It was no longer those famous Greek "Kouros" statues, so aesthetic and so constipated by normative standards of beauty...!) It was the living energy of the primordial Earth (Pacha Mama), the Moon, of the Cosmos and the Sun, which they even fed with human sacrifices on each and every day!
FUCK AND FORGET DEEPLY ALL EUROPEAN ART WHO IS TO BE THROWN ONCE AND FOR ALL INTO THE TRASH AND THE DUSTBIN OF ART HISTORY!
This is the text I wrote about this series of works on Plexiglas:
UXMAL - NEW YORK, A "MAYAN DIARY" (New York, 2000)
- "When we think of the unending growth and decay of life and civilizations, we cannot escape the impression of absolute nullity. Yet, I have never lost a sense of something that lives and endures underneath the eternal flux. What we see is the blossom, which passes. The rhizome remains." C.G. Jung
Uxmal; from those ghostly ruins there still emanates the magic energy of a whole civilization. New York; is where I live, a place that will also become one day, with the perpetual gnawing of time, a faded and forgotten skeleton.
This body of paintings was created in a musical, serial, tonal and repetitive style.
The main image is one of the Mayan corn-god Wak-Chan-Ahaw. The one who made everything happen, who created the universe, and who fertilized the world. He is dressed, or undressed, by two beautiful naked women, mothers-lovers-goddesses who throughout their gestural offerings bring him back to life, to germination. This image is a metaphor for the human soul resurrection from the underworld journey after defeating the Lords of death. This scene from the Mayan mythology takes place on the first day of creation, under water, in the primordial sea, and therefore has a very strong relationship to cosmogonies and the human unconscious.
Some images come from contemporary pornography, also featuring its archetypes of phallic resurrections and germinating offerings. Other images are from shamanic drawings, some are spatial representations of the Axis Mundi, while others are drawing from shamanic journeys I have experienced under hypnosis. There is also some vulvas genetic patterns, and some imprint of classical Mayan vases and ground-stone chisels.
What should be also be said about this first series of monumental art works on Plexiglas, is that it did occur because of three very important encounters in my life, three conjunctions, three time momentums, which changed my life for ever, as essential and fundamental revelations! Because about the exact same time periods, simultaneously and by coincidence, in a king of cosmic momentum, when I had visited the countries of Mexico and Guatemala:
- 1. I meet my therapist Glenda, a close friend of my dear old fiend Johnes Ruta. She initiated me to the shamanic trances though Eriksonnian hypnosis sessions, which really had opened my mind as well as my body to spirituals trips, as the all writers of the beat generation have done: Kerouac, Ginsberg, Snyder…
- 2. Severals trips to Mexico have been shaking me deeply and I get lucky enough to buy there several Mexican masks, most of them of El Tigre (the tiger animal spirit) and some ancient pre-Columbian stone axes, and potteries. To this day, they are still in my studio, and they undeniably add a specific Mexican touch—and a very strong and powerful spiritual presence!
- 3, At the same time I meet also a woman lover from African and Apache background. Sexually it was also a kind of profound and new unbelievable sexual revelation and initiation.
So the "Mayan Diary" series is all about that four main themas: SEX, SHAMANISM, COLOUR AND ART
Here is an excerpts from the book The Four Suns by Jacques Soustelle to better understand the deep and complicated meanings of some Aztecs rituals and cultural practices:
"Thus, men know that, with the gods’ help, yet another battle has been won against nothingness."
"But the Sun refused to move unless the other gods burned themselves in turn. And so the gods sacrificed themselves, and ever since then, the Aztecs—who considered themselves ‘the people of the Sun’—have been condemned to imitate them, so that the universal machinery might continue to turn.
- So human blood was, in a way, the world’s energy?
- Exactly, and it was needed constantly to fight against this tendency toward degeneration, against entropy."
To conclude this chapter, I must also share a brief anecdote about the important weaving work of traditional Maya women, which I believe, is related in the book "Maya Cosmos: Three Thousand Years on the Shaman’s Path", by Linda Schele, an anthropologist who traveled extensively to Mexico and Guatemala, and who recounts that she met this old weaver of Mayan tunics, to whom she asked this pertinent question:
"But you weave and design patterns are so small and intricate that no one on Earth can really see or understand them?"
- The weaver replied, smiling very humbly, aware of an ultimate truth that the American interviewer did not know and will likely never comprehend:
- "But yes, of course, if no human can see it, but God can know it!"
In fact, that is exactly what it means to be an artist: even if no one truly understands our work, we are always speaking—somewhere—to a kind of God, to a common and universal spiritual energy that transcends us all… in the Great Cosmos, that is how it is!
Juts have a look at some Pollock's paintings and the Sand paintings from the Indian Navajo shamans…
— 5 - 2. IN THESE WORKS, EROTIC IMAGERY IS NOT PRESENTED ONLY AS SEXUALITY. IT SEEMS CONNECTED TO BIRTH, DEATH, TRANSFORMATION, AND COSMIC ENERGY.
How do you understand the relationship between eroticism and spirituality in your art?
I love things that slip away, that switch appart, that break the boundaries, that are rebellious and on the fringes. Or, nowadays, at least, in France and in the West, in general, everything and anything is dissected and analysed and proved scientifically and rationally. We don't have any longer any sense of the Whole, the global picture of the great interconnection between all things, all living beings, the grand cosmic mechanism, or the boundless generosity of Life and its diversity—all of which are shrinking like shrunken skins! Apparently one must dissociate everything, separate everything, in order to understand!
NOTES FROM NEW YORK
Our societies operate on the basis of negation:
No to sexuality,
No to love,
No to nature,
No to animals,
No to plants,
No to spirits and gods,
No to communication...
Yet my work is part of the World’s vast diversity and destiny, which de facto includes sexuality, orgasms, travels into other worlds, eroticism, tantric rituals and cosmic energies as for, spirituality of course, all of that being strongly connected and glued together, into a collective creative energy—and that’s not a problem at all, because it’s a Whole, a Totality. Morality have nothing to do with Art; to be an artist is to be free, period!
There is no conflict or opposition between sexuality and spirituality—nor should there ever be. One does not contradict the other, at least in my work, and that is my main mantra!
— 5 - 3. THE FEMALE BODY APPEARS AGAIN AND AGAIN IN YOUR WORK AS A POWERFUL, OPEN, GENERATIVE IMAGE.
At the same time, the male body is often reduced to the phallus rather than shown as a full figure. Is this contrast intentional? What does it mean for you?
Exuberant pleasure—not sadness or morbid sin—are at the origin point of humankind!
A really serious and mot simple way to answer your question about this overwhelming and all around importance and presence of the female body in my art works, is to simply and appropriately enough quoting this stunning libidinous artist replica, in the Michelangelo Antonioni’s film L’Avventura (1960), starring the stunning sensual, mysterious and enigmatic blonde actress Monica Vitti...
Thoroughly aroused by his erotic works on display all over the its studio, looking much as "Picasso like" paintings; one of the two women visitors—very bourgeois and uptight, yet completely turned on and deeply impressed by the nudity and obscenity of the bodies into the paintings, asked him ingenuously:
- "Why do you always only paint naked women?"
- The artist answers her: "I’ve never seen any landscape as beautiful as a woman’s body!
So that's why I am simply painting always naked women in ecstatic orgasms, and sexual climax!
As nothing, to this day, has ever impressed me more, sexually, visually, sensually, and had never given me more pleasure into my real life, as all the rest, seems to me just poor ersatz, forgery and facsimile of it…
And, I am much more interested by the Feminine cosmic force-task power and energies, like those of Indians goddess Durga or Kali from the Indian mythologies, as I believe that they could escape totally the straight linear male historical time narrative, in order to entrer into the circular fertiles, repetitive, and regenerative Life Cycles rhythms of Nature as a whole.
And, yes of course, on the opposite, subsequently, I am not too interested in representing male bodies, as being a man and knowing all its mechanic and anatomy perfectly, I am not too crazy of speaking of my own body, neither about myself.
I really like the opposite as well as the male-women double sexual energy. Even though sometimes, I showcase some images of entranced male shamans, or masturbating or ithyphallic Gods as Dionysos (the ancient Greek God of wine, merriment, and theatre), Bes (ancient Egyptian god of childbirth, fertility, sexuality, humor, and war), or Priapus (phallic Greek god of vegetable gardens)!
Secondly, I am not too crazy either about all the male long and bloodily heroical stories about heroes going out to war and conquering women and enslaving some other part of territories and destroying other cultures of humanity, as all the Homeric characters, and all the big Men as Hector, Achilles, Ulysses, Cesar, or Christopher Columbus, neither Napoléon etc…
And to joke a bit about the Trojan War and The Odyssey, the new movie just getting out those days, directed by Nolan, please read this small poem from a disrespectful and mocking anonymous Roman writer from the first Century AD:
"THE GAMES OF PRIAPUS: AN ANTHOLOGY OF EROTIC EPIGRAMS", BY FLORENCE DUPONT
68, HOMER REVISITED
"I sound like an uneducated, crude peasant—
forgive me: I’m a country bumpkin, not a bookworm.
I’m a boor, yet from listening to my master
read all day long,
I know two or three Homeric etymologies by heart.
What we call “spurting cum,” Homer called a “thunderous geyser.” […]
That cock stole his tender lover from his buddy Achilles.
The girl belonged to Peleus’s son, but she preferred his cock to his own.
Yet he, Achilles, when he sang his funeral lament,
got a harder erection than the strings of his lyre.
That is the origin of his famous wrath and of the "Iliad".
The sacred song came from his cock. […]
“No one wielded his weapons better than my dear Odysseus—
his bow as well as his cock;
since he’s gone, it’s up to you to prove yourselves now—show me what you’re worth.
So I may choose my hero and make him my husband.
Penelope, I could have won the contest and you would have chosen me, but at that time I didn’t exist yet."
Isn't it better to make jokes about all those big male driven wars all over the World, today and throughout history? it's just ridiculous and obnoxious! It's maybe It's better to laugh it off a little humorously and not taking them too seriously.
As for me, I am more interested by the feminine karma-force-task power and energies closer to that of Indian goddess Durga* or Kali**, from the Indian mythologies, as I believe that they could escape absolutely the straight linear male historical time, in order to entrer some other circular fertile cycles, repetitive, and regenerative rhythms of Nature, the endless cycles of life and death throughout sexuality, of course!
* Durga: The Inaccessible One, is one of the most important deities in Hinduism, regarded as the principal aspect of Mahadevi, the Ultimate Reality.
** KALI The "Black" is, in Hinduism, the goddess of preservation, transformation and destruction. He who worships her is freed from the fear of destruction. She destroys evil in all its forms and especially the branches of ignorance such as jealousy or passion.
HOWEVER, HERE ARE BIG PHALLI THAT EJACULATE SEMEN
Regarding the constant use, in my work, of the countless large, ejaculating penises that feature prominently in my paintings—because it is a very sacred and very positive symbol! For example, in the book that a friend of mine brought me back from Bhutan, Phallus, Crazy Wisdom from Bhutan, by Karma Choden, it says:
"The phallus protect, aids fertility and challenges the human ego. The strike of the erect thunderbolt phallus is enough to tickle your ego down to flaccidity."
Indeed, contrary to what one might think, the obscenes images are not something gratuitous or irreverent; it undoubtedly serves a very specific purpose, as it also help to dismantle any established order, reintegrating sexual freedom into the social order—just like any true spiritual practice! For, in traditional cultures, obscene words and images have always served a ritual function of challenging the gods—to destabilize them and overturn moral or even aesthetic notions! And besides, they’re also so funny and absurd that—as this quote so aptly puts it—they completely and permanently annihilate the viewer’s ego, while making the audience laugh and throwing them off balance! So here are a few big, ejaculating penises and some obscene words….
DESCENT OF DEITIES
"At the Lhabotd - summoning deities - ritual in Trongsa and Wangduephodrang, a Phajo (shaman) chants and invokes the deities to descend to earth through a cotton string and a ladder with the tip of its railing carved as a phallus. Another ritual in the same region called Bala Bongko is performed to appease Radarp, the local deity, bv uttering obscenities."
A quote about this crazy Bhutanese monk : "THE DIVINE MADMAN, DRUKPA KUNLEY, TIBETAN TANTRIC YOGI", BY GESHEY CHAPHU
Drukpa Kunley (1455–1529) was born in Tibet and also lived in Bhutan, after shooting his magic arrow there! In Bhutan, he is still revered today and has been elevated to the status of a national hero. He is a monk yet at the same time detests all dogmas, mantras, monasteries, honours, religions, and all wealth… He loves to have sex with women and show off his dick everywhere and all the time! He is truly The Crowned Anarchist — ref. to Antonin Artaud, Heliogabalus or the Crowned Anarchist —the quintessential example.
INTRODUCTION
“Kunley’s sexual activity is just one of the means he uses to free people from ignorance—that universal psychosis that obscures within all of us the Buddha-nature inherent in being—and to uproot static conceptions of who we are and what we should and should not do. The genius of his therapeutic skill lies in spontaneous speech and action that awaken awareness of authentic existential reality. Insults and laughter are the deft means he employs to urge beings to abandon the lethargic acceptance that results from their attachment to conventional forms. All of Drukpa Kunley’s relationships are governed by the art of his desire to attain enlightenment alongside others and in a lasting way.”
THE OBSCENE MANTRA
"After downing a few sips of chang with his guest (the peasant), Drukpa Kunley, feigning ignorance, asked him the reason for his visit. The old man timidly asked for a teaching to practice in order to attain Enlightenment. “Well,” declared the unrepentant sage, ostentatiously waving his empty bowl in the direction of the servant girl, “I’m not quite sure what to tell you… All right, here’s the thing: if you recite this mantra aloud a thousand times a day, you’ll be liberated from samsara:
“Om mani pedmé Houng.” “The Jewel is in the Lotus.” “I contemplate the old woman’s cunt, which resembles” “an impenetrable, spongy flask.” “I meditate on the old man’s penis, which” “dangles like a withered radish.” I take refuge in the triumphant semen Of my incomparable master, Who, through the firm lotus of The young beauty, spreads waves of bliss. "Om mani pedmé Houng."
Back home, the peasant told his wife and his youngest daughter—whom he had not yet been able to marry off due to lack of means—about his encounter with his master. And to conclude, he chanted the mantra for them that he was supposed to recite a thousand times a day. The blushing maiden fled the room, shouting that he was crazy, while her mother grabbed a broom to silence that disgusting old man who, rosary in hand, continued to recite the salacious words. […]
Months went by. One evening, something disrupted the mother and daughter’s dinner. A deafening silence had fallen over the house. It had been a full hour since the hum of the mantra had last been heard. The next morning, too, there was no chanting. When the daughter brought up the bowl of buttered tea, the tsampa for dinner was still sitting in front of the attic door. She opened the door and saw the silhouette of her father in meditation—silent, motionless, wrapped in a blanket from head to toe. The daughter approached and gently pulled at the fabric. She then discovered a luminous form in five colors. The physical body had transformed into a rainbow body. It dissolved before the young woman’s incredulous eyes, filling the air with a heavenly melody!"
What a beautiful story that teaches us that no matter the method or content of our prayers, what matters really is to believe in them and never stop reciting our mantras; liberation will ultimately come at the end of the path, even if regular people don’t really understand it!
In fact, of all bodily functions, I much prefer ejaculating to taking a shit or peeing! It's so much more pleasurable!
And the final and undeniable point is this: absolutely all of us—you and I—were born from a woman’s womb, out of a woman vulva! And we spent nearly nine months there, as a small fragile and delicate human beings. It is therefore there—in the womb, in this space of birth, that our intellectual development, and all of our first pleasures, emotions, breaths, and joy have been initiated— This Womb-Place that we all know so well and that we must honor and worshiped.
So, of course, the very first images ever drawn by humanity are naturally, phallic and vulvar—or the interpenetration of both at once!
Pleasure and its unfulfilled sharing are the first and ultimate emotions that men and women have shared equally since the dawn of time—along with, of course, grief for the dead and suffering. It works both ways and for both of them!
These unquenchable desires also function mechanically through mimicry and imitation, as pornographic images de facto inducing a strange state of masturbation and orgasmic ejaculations. These images provoke desire, by the projection of the self into an infinite, insatiable, and imperishable need to possess the other and, ultimately, to bring him or her to climax. Our pleasure leads to the other’s pleasure—through mimicry, through a transcendental, fusional sharing. As André Malraux shows in The Temptation of the West:
"The entire erotic game lies here: being oneself and the other; experiencing one’s own sensations and imagining those of one’s partner. From sadism and masochism to feelings that depend on a spectacle, humans are subject to this duality, the final manifestation of the ancient forces of fate."
The solitary man or woman masturbating in front of the orgasmic sex scenes, thus imagines, as they gaze with eyes wide open with amazement, pornographic images, through which they can imagine encountering other beings—more beautiful, more sensual, more open—possessing an immediate capacity for pleasure and ecstasy, allowing women to climax fully and obscenely, to the point of multiple, incessant, furious, and screaming orgasms, repeated with cries that defy all and every ancient mythological scenario.
So, of course, these are images projected from another world—almost like reminiscences, some still-warm ashes projected from ancient, primordial mythologies. These images create spaces for encounter like those of immemorial times, those when humans were still communing with Gods and Goddesses, from all corners of the world. Take, for example, the Siberian shamans, with their heavy costumes adorned with lead fetish statues and magical symbols, and beating their drums on which geographic designs, represent the four corners of the World—the Axis Mundi—loudly beating: Boom! Boom! Boom! chanting their journeys to the rhythm of the heartbeat to seek out and heal the lost souls of the dead or those of the sick, and so on, and so on.
So I think that pornographic imagery, far beyond its primary, purely commercial, materialistic, and financial function (because today, this business is what matters most and Its annual turnover is equivalent to that of the the military-industrial industry!), nevertheless conveys a very human dimension; after all, these over-sexualised bodies of porn stars, with their plump, exaggerated lips, always sucking on big dicks, with breasts like shells and stiff, hardened nipples and with vulvas and anuses fully open and offered up…
Physically, they aren’t so different from our girlfriends or faithful wives—except that, on a certain level, one step further, these bodies represent the oversized realm of myths, legends, and dreams!
MORE! BIGGER! ALWAYS MORE! UNTIL THE OVERWHELMING TOO MUCH EJACULATION!
— 6 - 1. COLOUR, CHEMISTRY, AND THE PHYSICAL LIFE OF THE IMAGE
You write about colour almost as a living substance, with its own density, history, and chemical origin.
How important is the material and chemical nature of pigment for you?
I use colours as a second skin, a second breath, and if it was my own hart beats! It's some raw natural and somehow magical substances, which is fully alive, for me and and I must respect it. You know it's a bit like cooking: if you order industrial food it will surely destroy and kill your body. As for me I am vegetarian, and I remember having had a Japanese girlfriend, Mayumi, visiting me at the studio, she use to cook for us, once, she was cooking zucchinis really slowly and having much more respect for the food than I had. So, you have to learn your lesson as in the Japanese "Tokyo Delices" movie, where the old women Tokue cooks for six hours the Azuki beans in order to make dorayaki cookies, small crepes filled with candied red beans and she said at one point: "You really have to listen carefully to what the beans are telling you!".
Somehow, paint and painting is like cooking, you have to listen to paint in order that, what you like to create, could be in full harmony with your physical energy at that time and also as in any rituals, that you can feel strongly connected to the paper, the sky, your physical movements and your ancestors. Other way, it will never be at the right tone, neither the right energy!
— 6 - 2. YOU OFTEN MIX COLOURS IN A VERY PERSONAL WAY, SOMETIMES USING OLD ACRYLIC INKS FROM YOUR NEW YORK YEARS.
Do you think of colour as memory?
This is absolutely right, as I use my silkscreen ink as a kind of yeast for making bread rise. Within all my series of painting container, some of them came from my New York studio, so they are already twenty-five years old, the paint is still fresh and I like to mix it with brand new paint. For example, if I want to print a new red colours, I will add a medium cadmium red to some old paint in order to create, each every time a new shade of red to print a particular image. Thus, this 'new' ink, will carry, within its ADN, the memories of all the red I had printed already before with the same can of paint… So, yes, I am seeing truly images and colours as memories of Time, of souvenirs of some strong emotional experiences that I had lived, some important memories…
— 7 - 1. LATER WORKS: SERIALITY, REPETITION, AND RITUAL
In later series such as Mangas, Shakti-Yoni, and Karma-Kali, repetition becomes very important. Is repetition for you closer to visual rhythm, meditation, ritual, or obsession?
No, it's mainly about the silk-screening process itself, as it is always a serial and repetitive process… As you noticed clearly, silkscreening is as a ritual, a working session is always an important time period, as out of time and space. It could be physically entrancing too, because of the noise of the printing table, the smell of the inks and the physical move of my own body. It's like a cosmic danse during which, my body could let behind some traces and memories of pleasures given and received. And I am feeling, after a long printing session, as in a state of exhaustion, like after a long, fulfilling, and pleasurable orgasm, because I take such pleasure in mixing and then spreading the colors onto the paper and Plexiglas, and seeing—finally, sometimes after so many years—the images I’ve worked so hard to redraw on my computer, that come finally to life. It’s a truly repetitive and exhilarating process, which is, of course, steeped in and infused with music, rhythm and ecstasy. Much like the trances of the dancing whirling dervishes or levitating monks, it’s an ecstatic experience achieved through a unique artistic practice.
— 7 - 2. YOU OFTEN COMBINE SEXUALLY EXPLICIT IMAGES WITH SACRED GEOMETRY, MANTRAS, ARCHAIC PATTERNS, AND MYTHOLOGICAL REFERENCES.
What happens for you when these two worlds meet in one image?
"FRAGILE ABSOLUTE: WHY IS THE CHRISTIAN HERITAGE WORTH DEFENDING?" BY SLAVOJ ZIZEK
STRUCTURE AND EVENT
"The idea of the act understood as real means that every authentic act exists in an in-between space, between Time and Eternity. […] In short, a true act is a paradox: that of a "timeless" and eternal gesture that transcends eternity while simultaneously opening up the dimensions of temporality and historicity."
Yes, I am dealing with In-between spaces, gap of time and gap of informations, that are very important as I really want to change the way of understanding of the viewer, in creating an aesthetical choc, a paradoxical situation of misunderstanding…
Yes, blurring the lines by presenting images whose deeper meanings are completely opposite to one another—one juxtaposed above the other—allows me to create, de facto, what Mircea Eliade called a "BREAK IN LEVELS."
"The quintessential shamanic technique consists in passing from one cosmic realm to another: from Earth to Heaven, or from Earth to the Underworld. The shaman knows the mystery for breaking of the levels." Mircea Eliade, in Shamanism and the Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy
This level discontinuity can enable humans to step out of their flat horizontal materialistic existence and, thanks to the axis mundi (cosmic axis, axis of the world, pillar of the world, center of the world and/or the connection between Heaven and Earth), enter an other spiritual vertical dimension, right there, within that painted space and surface.
And it is this Axis Mundi, used by all the shamans of the Earth—who are represented by trees—or by all elevated sites such as the Egyptian pyramids of Giza, the Mayan ruins of Uxmal, or the Inca ruins of Machu Picchu—places of encounter with their Gods and spirits, etc.
This blurring of information was, to some extent, what the Surrealist artists of the mid-twentieth century had already attempted to do with their "exquisite corpses" for example, to break free from a classical, ageing, and outdated aesthetic and thus re-enter the energies of a renewed world, which had to change completely, since the old world had been destroyed firstly by the First World War, and then, to add insult to injury, by the Second World War as well.
A destructive-constructive impulse, so to speak, and a desire to regenerate the World as well as all artistic languages. This was one of the most significant artistic aspirations, essential for recreating new aesthetic models and perhaps new forms of spiritualities and ethics.
It is Lautréamont’s famous line from Les Chants de Maldoror: "The chance to encounter on a dissection table between a sewing machine and an umbrella."
This was the quintessential example of the “convulsive beauty” championed by André Breton.
Although I am not really surrealist by nature, I must acknowledge my debt to their works, which opened pathways to the unconscious, precisely and simultaneously with psychoanalysis. Everything is connected, of course! And yet, I would never would like that my work to be analysed from a psychoanalytic perspective, in that particular way.
For I am certain that all my work—staging images drawn from all over the World and from very diverse cultures—rather represents and embodies a New York-style international melting pot!
Without any initial intention, I simply wish to accumulate elements in order to create and gather more diverse energies, within a single painting; it is an accumulation of ostensibly different, contradictory, and varied energies, thereby creating a surplus of energy characterised by some high entropy!
In fact, isn't my new series of paintings on Plexiglas appropriately titled "Entropic Suites"?
— 8 . LOOKING BACK
— 8 - 1. HAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE BODY CHANGED OVER TIME?
But of course, just as an elephant or a whale grows wiser with age, we come to know our bodies better and better as we grow older. And above all, I’m reading more and more interesting books, not on how to ageviselly—since there’s really nothing we can do about that anyway—but on how to understand, with ever greater intensity and love, all the spiritual diversity of the World. As for my diet, I’ve been a strict vegetarian for over twenty-six years.
I’ll leave you to reflect on these superb excerpts from Lafcadio Hearn (1850-1904) a great English writer who lived the second part of his life in Japan:
– "KWAÏDAN: STORIES AND STUDIES OF STRANGE THINGS", LAFCADIO HEARN
THE ANTS, I"This morning, after last night’s storm, the sky is a pure, dazzling blue. The air, delightful, is filled with sweet, resinous scents emanating from the countless pine branches lying on the ground, snapped by the hurricane. From the nearby bamboo grove, I hear the flute-like call of the bird singing the Lotus Sutras. All is peaceful, for the south wind is blowing: the long-awaited summer has finally arrived. Butterflies in bizarre Japanese colors flit here and there; cicadas whistle; wasps buzz; gnats dance in the sun; and ants are busy repairing their homes devastated by the storm. I think of a Japanese poem: "The poor creature now has no place left to take shelter: gone are the ants’ homes during the rain of the fifth month!"
– "KAMIS AND TORII, SPIRITS, GHOSTS, AND THE WISDOM OF JAPAN"
IX"I search for an image of the Divinity or Spirit that presides over these places, among clusters of multi-branched candelabras. And I see a mirror, a pale, round disc of polished metal in which my own face is reflected, and, behind this mockery of myself, the ghost of the distant sea. Just a mirror—symbolizing what? Illusion? Or that the Universe exists for us only as imagination, as a reflection of our own souls? Or the ancient Chinese teaching that we must seek the Buddha only within our own hearts? Perhaps one day I will be able to discover all these things. […] Then the mirror’s mockery comes back to my mind. I begin to wonder if I will ever be able to discover what I seek outside of myself. That is to say, outside of my own imagination."
— 8 - 2. HAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE SACRED CHANGED OVER TIME?
"Most intellectuals and most artists belong to the same type. Only the strongest of them force their way through the atmosphere of the bourgeois earth and attain to the Cosmic. The others all resigned themselves or make compromises." Hermann Hesse
As Hermann Hesse said, It’s always a daily struggle to access the sacred, and nothing is ever taken for granted. But I should add that, throughout my life, I’ve had some profound, powerful, and spiritual experiences that have, step by step, gradually taught me to understand and approach these very thorny and delicate subjects—which are very difficult to communicate, since they are beyond religion and lack any fixed descriptive framework or written instructions like specific religious experiences. They belong to the realm of the intimate realm of contemplation, poetry, trance, transgression, and ecstasy…
However, being able to transcribe them into images—such as in my shamanic trances journeys depicting encounters with animal spirits or female healing entities—allows me to bear firsthand narrative witness to them.
Even if this greatly disturbs viewers who mistake me for a gentle and innocent dreamer…
But in fact, having been able to accumulate all these cosmic, shamanic, and sexual trance experiences, gives me great strength today to continue developing my art, even facing most of the time some great adversity; and in a way, it has also given me greater physical and intellectual strength and has developed my intuition and consciousness. Because there are always more things present around us that are interconnected than we realize or think of.
Here, for example, are two accounts: first, that of an initiatory dream, and second, of one of the several shamanic trances I had experienced in New York in the 2000s, from my Notes New York - 1993-2003:
DREAM
It was day and it was night; it was not day and it was not night. An immense concave beam of light swept across the earth from west to east (see Rembrandt’s painting *The Philosopher in Meditation*²). This light was composed of billions of energized particles, bombarding the space of this helical form—a vortex; at the center and extending to infinity was a nucleus of pale blue and pale yellow light, somewhat like a dematerialized sun. I could touch this light with my right hand as it passed like an eclipse over the Earth’s surface, and I showed Olga how easy it was to enter and exit the light. Nearby was a calm, flat lake, gray and heavy as lead, over which five to seven wild geese—black and silent—flew in formation. (See Bruegel’s painting, The Hunters in the Snow for the birds, and El Greco’s View of Toledo, for the colors—the gray of the lake and the green of the mountains.) Nearby, a white mare was waiting for me, pawing the ground with impatience, young and spirited like Pegasus. Questions: Was this light composed of the souls of the dead leaving the Earth? Was it a dream of shamanic initiation?
SHAMANIC JOURNEY 3
I was in a dark place, with no light at all, and I was suffering from loneliness and feeling afraid; the place suddenly turned blood-red and filled with heat—I believe I had returned to the womb of the universe. I was a Maya warrior who loved women and flowers too much, and who transformed into a jaguar (el tigre) with great energy. El Tigre showed me the forest and the rivers. She licked my face affectionately, and I swam with her in the river. I really loved the way she moved like a cat; she played with me, and we loved each other very much. Then I found myself as a Roman warrior, and I don’t remember very well—it all became chaotic.
— 8 - 4. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE VIEWERS TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT YOUR WORK THAT IS OFTEN MISSED OR MISUNDERSTOOD?
I really think that today it is completely impossible and illusory to believe that the public can truly appreciate Art in general—and my work in particular—for what it is worth. And unfortunately, I’ve had a bitter and resounding experience of this, since my monumental 80-square-meter installation at the Besançon Museum of Fine Arts—though magnificent and monumental— it brought me absolutely no contact neither any sale nor new encounters…
It’s as if people were walking by my work without even seeing it. As if they were completely numb, brain-dead, lobotomised…
So, is this just a cultural issue? Is it a matter of attention toward works of art that no one can looks at it anymore today? Or that people can’t even appreciate or analyse it due to a lack of cultural literacy? Is the age of Art definitively over? It could very well be, because I have the impression that, all around the World, we have entered what can undoubtedly be called and defined as a new POST-CULTURAL era!
In any case, all the beautiful and powerful vital energies present in my work speak for themselves and only to an infinitesimal portion of the population—just to a few very close friends who are highly cultivated and have been fortunate enough, not only to have traveled and read extensively but also to have worked abroad.
I seriously believe that my work presence is too strong, way too much; it is too rich, too exhilarating, and it overflows with simultaneous layers of informations… so the viewers are drowned into their own bewilderment and their selfish despair and humongous ego, and finally, not understanding anything at all!
"That’s the artist's life—it’s beautiful but it’s a bit sad!" as my dear Italian friend Pierro Baroni, with whom I used to go trout fishing when I was a child, would often say to me!
Jean-Pierre Sergent, Besançon studio July 23nd 2026

